Wednesday, July 27, 2011

The hierarchy of blogging

 Please to be noting that this is not written with any specific person(s) in mind: it's my asspinion of an overall impression I've gotten of Cyberia (head-bob to @jettsuperior for that term) for a long, long time. And since the shingle outside my door states this is my little corner of the universe, I'm entitled to my asspinion in this space. In turn, you're entitled to completely disregard it and close said door.

I've spent my morning skimming over the latest innertubez dust-up and thoroughly reading some freaking amazing posts that, if not directly in response, certainly seem to fit the situation. Now, lest anyone think I'm trying to link bait or ride on coat tails, I'm not going to link back to those posts (however, if you are friends with me on facebook, twitter, stumbleupon, or digg, I'm sure you can figure it out cuz you're all smart like that). There have been accusations of big bloggers vs. little bloggers, who is "A-list" and who isn't, and shocked "How DAAAAAARE yous!" when a small-time blogger has the *cough*balls*cough* to speak to someone in a higher rank. I... *heavy sigh* Yeah.

I haven't been involved in the whole blogging/twitter scene for very long (three years, I think?), but I've been heavily involved in all things interwebby for over ten years - I'm not a newb (but SO WHAT if I was? Didn't we ALL start out that way at some point or other, for the love of Pete?). However, there seems to be a completely different set of internet politics when it come to blogging and twitter: holier-than-thou, self-righteous indignation flows through nooks and crannies, soaking everything in pissed offedness and hurt feelings on either side of the line drawn in the sand.

Reading all these things about "who does he think he is, posting that THERE?" is forcing me to recall my own entry into the twitter/blogosphere. Now, I did have the benefit of message board culture and knew that it's best to test the waters before jumping in feet first (although a lot of people will tell you to completely forget that line of thinking and do a fucking cannon ball into the pool); I just didn't know that this rule was somehow amplified with bloggers. I'm sitting here torn between cringing at the thought of some of the "popular kids" rolling their eyes at my pathetic @ attempts and saying who the fuck cares.

Three years later, I still don't understand what, exactly, makes someone an A-list blogger. Is it who you know? Where you write? The number blog/twitter/facebook fans you have? The traffic you get? The money you make? To me, that boils right back down to "the little people": much like a singer or an actor or a best-selling author, you very well might have the talent to make it big, but would you have gotten to where you are - or been able to stay on top - without the small-potatoes fans? And how the hell is someone who just happened to accidentally stumble across your blog, stuck around to read it enough to grow to like you/your content/your writing style, and *gasp!* found it acceptable to "talk" to you supposed to know that they're not supposed to look the Emporer in the eye until they've reached 4,000 blog hits and 300 twitter followers? I don't know about you, but I'm still waiting on my Blogging Hierarchy Flowchart, yo.

All I know is that if I ever got so freaking popular (HAAAAA) I was all "WHO does s/he think s/he is, talking to me?!? *sneer*" I'd be pretty disappointed with and disgusted by myself. (I kinda want to be all "Check yo'self before you wreck yo'self," but I don't know if I can pull it off... *grin*) As I've said all over the place for years - inside the computer and outside - it's about the Golden Rule, kiddies: treat people as you would like to be treated. It's really not rocket surgery.

And I swear to Ceiling Cat, if I hear/see/read one comment intimating that I'm "jus' jelus," I'll stick my jealous foot up someone's ass.



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  1. Yay, I'm so glad I waited for Disqus to fix itself. Okay, so. I agree with you 1000%. I wrote a very similar post, at a very similar time except I never published mine. I dunno maybe I'll relocate my balls and do so in the near future. I hate hate hate this whole blogging hierarchy. I hate even more when people say its not really there, because it is. There is definitely the "important" people and everyone else. Except, I hate to break it to them, they're really not any more important than anyone else. I'm trying (much more successfully since joining the Band) to not care about this kind of BS. To not be offended when so and so doesn't reply to me on twitter, or how many people comment or what my stats are, etc.

  2. we're going to need either a winnebago or a convertible if we're going to be feeding the baby pygmy goats nothing but glitter mullet wigs and bacon milkshakes, because PEE-YEW! and also: i am NOT going to be brushing any goat teeth. uh-uh, no sir.

  3. Precisely how I feel about the 2 of you, also. Even though we're totally going to solve that "never technically met" part with our EPIC ROAD TRIP that will involve bacon, milkshakes (or maybe bacon milkshakes!), glitter wigs, baby pygmy goats, and pure awesomeness.

  4. EXACTLY. Times A MILLION. That attitude drives me, good for you, you are VERY POPULAR...on the freaking INTERNET. It's exactly like high school, where the popular kids are popular for being popular...but plop them down in the middle of any other situation, and their very popularity is irrelevant.

  5. Excellent post!

    I started reading blogs in 2005 and writing my own in 2006. And to me, there always will be the "big" bloggers that I look to as a bit of a celebrity. Because they were some of the first successful bloggers, the ones who inspired me. AND they have continued to do it and still write good, funny stuff!

    But in that time I've since met a lot of these bloggers. And they are just like you and I and nice people. Some people? Aren't nice. But that's life. We are not going to like every person we meet.

    We are all bloggers for a reason. We choose to share in a space where we can hide behind the computer. I think we all are shy/have a bit of social anxiety. It's easy to do it from behind the comfort of my laptop, completely different to meet people in person!

    When I go to blog conferences or meet other bloggers, I act like not one person knows me, has heard of me or has read my blog. In fact I'm shocked if someone has heard of me, to be quite honest. 

    I mean, if you want to know how popular bloggers are, go ask a bar full of people who Dooce is and prepare to see a lot of blank stares.


  6. I rarely comment (due to time constraints and other annoying responsibilites) but I love what you wrote.  I also have never got involved nor read any blog that I knew or know is an "A list" or anything else, because I only read what I like (again when I have the time which is rare) and I comment when I am really moved by something or really love the way it makes a difference or strikes a chord.  Again, I'd love to comment on all the blogs I read, but just logistically can't do it and judging by how many times I *mark all as read* and let out a huge frustrated sigh while doing it it's not often enough.  However. that said I have a blog of my own, which only a few people read, but I don't really write it for a specific audience - I write mainly because I love to write and it's therapeutic to do so.  I love when friends or readers read and comment because it's usually positive and I feel like I might have helped someone in the process. (yeah. I'm an idealist heh).  That said, who the hell decides who's big and who's not  - blog traffic doesn't necessarily talented does it or that's what I've gleaned?  Sometimes people just like to fit in with the crowd and follow a blog because everyone else does.

    Last time I checked, we still lived in a democratic socieity )although judging by Congress right now I do wonder sometimes); and I have as much right as anyone else to join in a dialog or have an opinion or link to something, as long as I do it respectibvely and with the realisation that if something is controversial people may not agree with me.

    All this bigger smaller fish crap just stuns me and I'm so glad you pointed it out.  The interweb is a big place, with room for us all, so let's show a little respect for the rights of others and while we're at it throw in a little humility.  After all, people like J.K Rowling and others made it by starting where we all do, which was at the BEGINNING when no one knew about them or believed in them, but they wrote nevertheless till someone did.  (Secretly, I'm hoping this might be case for me because I'm a single Mom too and could do with that income......heh).

    Anyhoo, (can you tell my kids are with their Dad tonight as I have time to leave this ridiculoously long comment), whatever the drama this time, I'm glad someone spoke out on behalf "the rest of us" small time bloggers who only have interest in learning from other writers and supporting each other in this journey called life (again the idealist in me).  For the record, I enjoy your blog thoroughly and am very happy that you wrote this post.

    With apologies for the novella,

  7. I have been a "little person" in the blogosphere since I began eleven (!) years ago.  And I'm HAPPY to be so.  It's easier to avoid drama.

    Now, I am going to follow you simply because of this eloquent entry.  If that edges you further towards the "A" list, my abject apologies.

  8. If someone has the attitude that I shouldn't be allowed to talk to them because I'm not cool enough, then I don't WANT to talk to them, but I also want to say 'hey, YOU'RE not cool enough to talk to ME!" but I don't because then I'd be talking to them, breaking their rule AND my rule, so then I don't end up talking to them and they think I'm following their rule being all submissive and everything, but I'm totally just not talking to them because they're clearly a douchebag.

    Being in high school is hard work.

  9. Now that I know I'm not supposed to speak to better bloggers than I, I can sleep easier at night. It was a lot of pressure! :-D

  10. It actually makes me okay with being a very small time blogger with a rare occasional comment from a random and some not so random people. Heck, I am shocked when I do get a comment because at the moment I only blog to give the voices in my head an outlet. lol

  11. Man I hate it when the internet drinks the crazy juice. 

    And who exactly is the keeper of this list?


    I mean, I loved this. Completely. 

  13. Seriously though. Some people gotta cool their jets.

  14. I'm so out of it.  Is there current drama?

  15. Love this. But what do I know, I'm so far down on the blogger hierarchy. I think there are three blogs newer than mine. :)

  16. I don't know anything about the latest dust-up, but I like this. Yes!

  17. Ahh! I love this just..ah. Yeah. There aren't words.

    I use to blog eons ago, and then I've stopped and started over the years..always searching for this community that I knew was out there that I wanted to be a part of. Just like in highschool - I don't care if I'm popular or not. As long as I've got some good friends by my side..what else do I need? I was the same way in highschool...I had a small group of friends within a larger social group..and we all ALWAYS had each others backs..and that was that.

    That's what I love about this community..I feel like I've got this group of people that I can turn to and say "OMG! I HAD THE BEST DAY! LISTEN TO *THIS*! Or I can say..You know what? I feel like SHIT..I need to cry on your shoulder..and hopefully they know the same about me.

    THAT'S what is least for me. Do I love reading certain blogs that make me laugh so hard I cry? Sure, of course. But I'm more invested in the people I interact with on a daily basis. I know when they're pmsing and fighting with their spouse or going out for icecream and will miss them when they're on holidays. Because I care, and I want to be a part of their life, because they're awesome. 

    I've said from the start..numbers, followers, stats? Who CARES. Quality interaction and creating relationships? That's priceless. 

    Love you! Love this!

  18. Yes. This. Totally. I don't care if I ever hit X number of followers/readers/whatever - I will never be a douche to anyone based on their numbers.  There are so many other reasons to be douchey! ;) Kidding.

  19. I sometimes feel that blogging is like a high school cafeteria.Once again, I'm not one of the cool kids. About once every other week, I think about quitting. (For this reason, and for the fact that I just ate half a pint of ice cream--but that's another story.) 
    I don't know what incident you are referring to and I'm thinking I don't want to know, but you've got me in your corner and you know that I'm a faithful reader. 

  20. I have no idea what you're talking about...and I'm glad. There are too many real problems in the world these days (hello! debt ceiling, anyone?) to have dramz on teh interwebs, yo.

  21. Jen of Losing the ShadowJanuary 2, 2012 at 6:49 PM

    I tried to post this earlier. I am a little "lesser blogger". I like it. I don't get invited by brands to go here and there. Ii have my own little following and I like it. I am going to blogher and I don't care if you have 100000 followers. You aren't better than me.

  22. One of the main reasons I killed my first blog was that it was becoming too well known. Too many of the "cool kids" seemed to be reading and commenting regularly. I felt out of place. I felt too much pressure to be cool. I have never EVER been in any sort of "in crowd" and I sure as hell didn't want to start making the sanctity of the blogosphere feel like the torture that was middle school. So what if I can count my regular readers on 2 hands with fingers to spare? Whoopeefuckingdoo. They actually get me - highs and lows and all the shit that goes along with both. I don't feel like I need to be witty or eloquent ... or cool ... because more often than not I'm none of those things.

  23. i see this happen everywhere, on almost all social media hooha (flickr, music sites, etc) & in almost every circle where I blog or step into.  I've been blogging for almost 7 years, and stuff still stings, yo.

    Permanently uncooly yours- 

  24. I keep telling my kids that on the internet there is no such thing as being famous. Being famous on the net is like being a single grain of sand on an ocean beach. Same goes with A listers. We're all in this together. It saddens me when people forget that.

  25. Dudette,

    I'd rather drink a pint at the pub with a few close friends than be mauled at the Britney concert with folks I could care less about, you konw?

    Love you bigs.

  26. i am, at best, a D-list blogger. it is entirely possible that to get my letter ranking, you'd have to use some kind of obscure dead alphabet, like sumerian cuneiform or something, and even then you'd probably have to go WAY down the list to find the appropriate character to identify my blog. i am associated with what i think is a pretty grade-A ad network, but i only have approximately 10 regular readers (and that is probably a generous estimate, because MY OWN HUSBAND, whose very own child is the subject of 99.99% of my blog posts, doesn't even read every day).

    but here's the thing: couldn't give a shit. i really don't care. i used to, but i don't any more. being a way lowly 900th-class citizen in bloggerville has its advantages, because i get to stay out of all Teh Dramahz. by the time i hear about the latest internet gossip about who said what about whom or whatever, it's long since over, and i no longer have to pretend to care. it's much easier that way. i get enough gossip coming home from the preschool, and you know what? "thus-and-such peed in his pants today!" is actually a lot more mature and a lot less judgmental than well more than half the shit these so-called grown-ups say about each other.

    i read the blogs that entertain or enlighten me, and i tend to stop reading the ones that get involved in the mud-slinging. i have a blog in the first place because i can't afford 60 hours a week of therapy, and i find snarking at my own parenting skills to be highly cathartic. it's probably for the best that i don't have a lot of readers, because that means i don't get a lot of comments, and so i don't have to spend a lot of time yelling "MEAN PEOPLE SUCK!" and locking myself in the bathroom to have an ugly cry every night.

    meanwhile: via twitter, i have made many connections to people (like you, and dancing_lemur, just to name two examples) whom i now consider my actual FRIENDS. yes, you're friends i've never technically met, but so what? i don't even CARE if you guys don't read my blog - i'll be honest and admit that i don't get to read your stuff every day. i'm not trying to form a cult, here, just a relationship.

    in short: the internet makes people very, very weird.



  28. I'm torn between being all nosy and checking out what you've been reading today, and closing up the computer until the latest blogger storm passes....because, really, people need to get over themselves. I hang with, tweet at, read, email, people who I like, people who have interesting things to say, people who challenge my thinking (or have a lot of the same thinking) - and I do all of that regardless of who else knows who those people are. I don't have time to check someone's "rank" before I decide if I'm going to talk to them. 

    Rock on Chibi! 


    That's about the scope of it for me.....not regarding blogging specifically, just life in general.

    ...and fuck uppity nonsense. Grr.


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